made with geany text editor https://www.geany.org/Download/Releases [added 28-oct-2018 9:33 am edt] 9 may 2018 1:20 am edt move to http://wortel.ucoz.com/computer_spec.htm using format like https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588646-secret-of-mana/faqs/5611 ;; #c-1# computer (usa, year 2000 ) monitor : viewsonic 17 inches cpu : dual celeron motherboard : - must have been abit bp6 the only mobo at that time supported dual celeron source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABIT_BP6 from google (abit dual celeron) result 1 video card : 3dfx model voodoo3 3000 agp sound card : sound blaster live case : lian-li.com, don't remember the model number [source:'lian-li.com' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lian_Li] speaker : altec lansing acs48 can not remember detail of the rest of the components. my friend irwan chang bought all components and built this computer keyboard : logitech mouse : matsumi ps/2 computer (indo, maybe year 2000 maybe year 2001) i carry a motherboard (i forgot the brand) and intel pentium 3 cpu (i forgot the speed) to semarang, indo. i carry those components and my computer in semarang, to sysmaco company google.com/maps/@-6.9846981,110.431562,3a,75y,302.78h,76.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOoB9NYSqGdLlsYTCFVz4Rw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 in semarang, asked sysmaco company to upgrade my computer with that motherboard and with that intel pentium 3 cpu, and i asked sysmaco company to teach me how to upgrade. #c-2# computer (usa, maybe year 2000 - 13 august 2006 ) - same monitor, speaker, keyboard, mouse as above - used dell dimension 8100 1.5 ghz pentium with 512mb rdram memory bought from my friend oki tjandrakusuma - new monitor 14 mach 2006 : MNTR SMSNG|LCD 17"8MSDVI 740b-Black - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$229.99) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001070 Extended Warranty Fee: $0 Subtotal: $229.99 TAX: $0 Shipping and Handling Charge**: $9.99 Total: $239.98 bought from newegg computer (usa, 13 august 2006 - 3 august 2011, sold in craigslist ): CPU AMD|A64 3700+ 2.2G 939 1M R - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$99.00) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103539 L1-cache 64 kb x 2, L2-cache 1.12 mb [source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_64#San_Diego_(90_nm_SOI) from wikipedia -> ( AMD San diego ) result 3] hypertransport 1000 mhz vcore 1.35 v or 1.4 v tdp 104 watt max release-date : 15-apr-2005 DVD+/-RW NEC ND-3550A BK % - OEM (Qty=1, Price=$28.99) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827152058 CASE LL|PC-65B BLK ALUMINUM RT - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$126.99) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112040 VGA XFX N GF6500 128M PVT44FRAMG RT - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$45.00) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150147 PSU TT | W0070 430W RTL - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$39.99) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023 MEM 1Gx2|GSKL F1-3200PHU2-2GBNS R - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$189.99) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231047 MB ASUS A8N-E NF4U 939 - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$85.99) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131530 same monitor, speaker, keyboard, mouse as above Extended Warranty Fee: $0 Subtotal: $615.95 TAX: $0 Shipping and Handling Charge**: $29.12 Total: $645.07 bought from newegg operating system : windows xp review for computer-case lian-li.com pc-65-b : [22 sep 218 2:49 am edt | 11:32 am edt ${1} add '80mm' ${2} add https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112040 ${3} add https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103539 ${4} add https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001070 ${5} add 'i got that weblink from my newegg-order-history, lian-li pc-65b can not be searched in newegg anymore.' | 11:39 am edt add 'air-filter block dust and hinder air-flow. i want maximum air-flow.' ${6} add 'i can tolerate dust'] https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112040 i got that weblink from my newegg-order-history, lian-li.com pc-65-b can not be searched in newegg anymore. pros : 1. lian-li pc-65b is lightweight because lian-li.com pc-65-b is made from aluminum 2. comes with harddisk-fan which cool-down harddisk. antec.com->300 does not come with harddisk-fan. [source:'antec.com' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antec] harddisk-fan is more important than case-roof-fan because harddisk gets hot without fan. many-air-holes on case-roof without case-roof-fan, is ok. many-air-holes on case-roof is important because heat should rise automatically. not having rear-case-fan seems ok. rear-case-fan maybe evacuate cool-air and hot-air. i want cool-air to stay inside computer-case. 3. thumb-screw for harddisk cons : 1. easily scratched 2. motherboard-tray seems redundant, add more complexity. i accidentally pinch power-cable between motherboard-tray and inner-case-wall then windows-xp restart by itself randomly. memtest86 says memory is fine then later i realise power-cable is being pinched between motherboard-tray and inner-case-wall. 3. fan-size is 80mm, less than 120mm but 2 80mm fans blowing harddisk so airflow to harddisk's hotspots maybe is as good or better. but more fan makes more noise but lian-li.com pc-65-b comes with fan installed not like antec.com->300 needing additional effort for installing fan. some fan specs (cfm means airflow): vantec 120mm 1500rpm 53cfm 92mm 1750rpm 28cfm 80mm 2050rpm 27cfm 60mm 2600rpm 12cfm rosewill 80mm 2500rpm 33.21cfm 120mm 2000rpm 74.48cfm source : ${1} https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811999614 ${2} https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200049 ${3} https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200044 4. lian-li.com pc-65-b has air-filter in front-panel. air-filter block dust and hinder air-flow. i want maximum air-flow, i can tolerate dust. that air-filter can be removed. 5. expensive reason i sell this computer in craigslist : [25 sep 2018 7:17 pm edt | 7:33 pm edt add 'i was trying to follow :' | 7:50 pm edt add 'now i realise i must not forget old component which made me survive.' | add 'but bible has flaw' | 11:25 pm edt add 'and maybe that computer is akujiki.' | 11:48 pm edt add 'maybe computer-case with black color makes user feels superstitious.' | 11:51 pm edt add 'but opening side-panel-door shows interior-computer-case color which is not black.' | 12:30 am edt add 'seeing a cat with black color, can make ppl feel superstitious'] 1. i was trying to follow : 'Marrying a Woman Taken Prisoner in War Moses said to Israel: 10 From time to time, you men will serve as soldiers and go off to war. The Lord your God will help you defeat your enemies, and you will take many prisoners. 11-13 One of these prisoners may be a beautiful woman, and you may want to marry her. But first you must bring her into your home, and have her shave her head, cut her nails, get rid of her foreign clothes, and start wearing Israelite clothes. She will mourn a month for her father and mother, then you can marry her.' in https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+21&version=CEV then i realise dell's motherboard (american), foxconn, made in china, is foreign as well. now i realise i must not forget old component which kept me alive during that difficult-time. 2. i try to follow : 'during that year, and when they have all they want from your fields, leave the rest for wild animals.' in http://wortel.ucoz.com/7years.htm 3. i had bad memory during working with that computer. maybe by selling that computer, i won't see that computer so my bad memory during working with that computer, disappears. but now i realise bad memory can become a lesson for the future. and i was trying to avoid seeing that computer for a while, while i rejuvenate my mental-strength. then now i can say 'i realise bad memory can become a lesson for the future' but now i realise bible has flaw : http://wortel.ucoz.com/bible_flaw.htm and everytime new computer-component is being made, maybe iron-miner blows soil with dynamite, killing beneficial earthworm to get more iron. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fEJcyMNfII (iron mine's good explosion and bad explosion compilation) and maybe that computer is akujiki. akujiki is a blade which wants to be used source : 'If the blade's hunger is left unsatisfied, it will slowly devour its owner's life force. Thus, whosoever uses Akujiki shall forever be cursed with an unfortunate fate; in order to sustain the blade's hunger, those who wield Akujiki must dedicate their entire lives to the slaughter of any and all beings that possess Yin, and then they must be devoured in their last moments.' in http://shinobisega.wikia.com/wiki/Akujiki from google (akujiki) result 1 maybe computer-case with black color makes user feels superstitious. but opening computer-case-side-panel-door shows computer-case-interior color which is not black. i did not open that computer's side-panel-door during using that computer. seeing a cat with black color, can make ppl feel superstitious source : 1. https://www.historicmysteries.com/black-cat-superstition/ from google (black cat superstition) result 1 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_cat#26_sep_2018_12_29_am_edt #c-3# computer (usa, 23 january 2012 i picked up components in bestbuy - now ) - motherboard : Asus-P8H61-M LE (Socket 1155) Micro ATX Motherboard 1333/1066MHz (cheapest mobo) - cpu : Intel-Celeron 2.5 GHz Processor G-540-BX80623G540, 2 core, 2 thread, cache 2 mb, memory-bus-speed 5 giga-transfer / second dmi-type, 2 memory-channel, tdp 65 watt [source:https://ark.intel.com/products/53416/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G540-2M-Cache-2_50-GHz] 2nd cheapest celeron. the cheapest celeron has 2.4 ghz speed, chinese fairy tale says 4 brings bad luck because 4 in chinese language is a homonym, has 2 meanings : 4 and die - memory : 2 pieces of ValueRAM-2GB PC3-10666 DDR3 DIMM Desktop Memory-KVR1333D3N9/2G Total for mobo, cpu, memory : 175.31 usd - power supply : dynex model : dx-400wps 400 watt [dynexproducts.com/pdp/DX-400WPS/8311052 from google (dx-400wps) result 3] - case : antec.com->300 - harddisk : western digital green 500 gigabytes wd5000aads-00s9b0 - monitor : (1)1-sep-2007 => 17-jun-2019 around 5 pm edt : dell->1708-fpt lcd-17-inch 223 usd. ending : produce clear-smoke from right-edge-area and produce burning-odor and show flickering display then stop showing display then i use parents-money to pay 25 usd to bestbuy to recycle that dell->1708-fpt) [source:dell.com->email-receipt] (my sister defina jaya used this monitor then used laptop then i took this monitor) (2)18-jun-2019 around 12:40 pm edt : hp->21-kd lcd-20.7-inch 91 usd [source:bestbuy.com->email-receipt] - speaker : sometimes harman-kardon-hk-395, sometimes maxtron (maybe china-made-speaker, from my father from indonesia) (my sister deborah-kim used harman-kardon-hk-395 then my father sometimes use harman-kardon-hk-395, i use maxtron) - mouse : dell usb mouse, don't remember purchase date - keyboard : sakar iconcepts 90050ns from walmart - dvd writer : hewlett packard dvd1260 mobo, memory, cpu were ordered online then picked up in bestbuy store. the other components were available in bestbuy. operating system : linuxmint-xfce review for asus-p8h61-m le : cons : 1. in a tower-computer-case : there are 2 harddisk sata-connectors on motherboard which enforce 2 sata-cable-connectors to face downward, making 2 release-buttons on those 2 sata-cable-connector face downward. so it is impossible to see that downward-facing-release-button without ducking. so i can forget there is a release-button which must be pressed prior unplugging sata-cable-connector. there are other 2 harddisk sata-connectors on motherboard which face upward. somehow i used 2 downward-facing-harddisk-connectors. i should have used 2 upward-facing-harddisk-connectors. 2. takes more than 1 mouse click to shutdown 1 cpu core in bios. because i always shutdown 1 cpu core in bios to save electricity. pros : no other complain. suggestion : 1)maybe if cmos battery is not on motherboard then show qestion in console asking how many cpu core should be turned on ? ('1'/'a' for all/[number]/'b' for enter 'bios') enter today's date and timezone : 12 oct 2018 5:1 pm so mouse-click-action is reduced. 2)put usb-memory inside motherboard to remember user-selection without cmos-battery? this idea come during i read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujio_Masuoka from 'Fujio Masuoka' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory from https://global.honda/newsroom/news/2018/c180928beng.html from https://global.honda/newsroom/?year=2018&page=3 result 2 but usb-memory maybe is not worth installing because motherboard-clock still need cmos-battery. 16 january 2017 : bought fan brand insignia from bestbuy, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-120mm-case-cooling-fan-black/3648006.p?skuId=3648006, to be installed in the front of antec.com->300 to cool down harddrive but power cable of insignia fan, is too short, can not reach cha_fan socket on mobo. the insignia fan lay on the floor, not used. bought 6 inches extension power cable from molex power source to 3 x 4 pin fan cables in newegg. that 6 inches extension cable provide power to 3 fans. 21 january 2017 : while waiting 6 inches extension power cable from newegg, i had idea to replace rear fan in antec.com->300 with insignia fan bought from bestbuy, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-120mm-case-cooling-fan-black/3648006.p?skuId=3648006 , made that rear insignia fan move air to interior instead of move air to exterior, providing fresh air to cpu. the original antec.com->300 rear fan is now installed in the front of antec.com->300, move resh air to interior to cool down harddrive installed in harddrive cage level 2. all side panels, front panel, metal slots expansion cover of antec.com->300, was removed to cool down components further, because psu location in antec.com->300, suck fresh air from above, and above is where cpu is located, so psu maybe trying to grab fresh air designated to cool down cpu. 9 feb 2017 10:52 am : last night i was browsing computer case in newegg.com then i realised my antec.com->300 can have 120mm fan on side panel, moving air to interior for psu. 11:09 am : but i realised asus micro atx P8H61M LE lacks extra cha_fan socket to provide power to 120mm fan on side panel. asus micro atx P8H61M LE has only 1 cha_fan on the left side of cpu, and that is being used by insignia rear fan 120mm, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-120mm-case-cooling-fan-black/3648006.p?skuId=3648006 , bought from bestbuy. layout of asus micro atx P8H61M LE : https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LE/HelpDesk_Manual/ 4 pin to molex adapter, https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABU94WV1658&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_- , to make 120mm fan power cable can plug to molex in psu cable, can not fit the 4 pin power cable in insignia fan which was bought from bestbuy i can not find a 120mm fan with power cable eating power directly on molex cable from psu. i doubt 3-pin to molex adapter provided by http://store.antec.com/enclosure-fans/truequiet-120-red.html# can fit the power cable fan 11:43 am i realised what i bought from newegg.com is 3 pin to molex adapter https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABU94WV1658&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_- and 3 pin to molex adapter can not make 4 pin insignia fan cable connect to molex. the 4 pin cable in insignia fan can not fit 3 pin in 3 pin to molex adapter from newegg.com. but product description says 4-pin, 3-pin, i thought 3-pin and 4-pin are compatible, apparently not compatible : '6 inch IDE Molex 4-pin to Case cooling Fan 3-pin TX3 Multi-Fan Out Power Adapter Converter Cable w/ Speed Reduction ,2x5V/2x12V ' 10 feb 2017 21:28 stripped the screw for fan on top panel of antec.com->300. reverse the wind direction for fan on top panel, the fan move air to interior, instead of to exterior, pushing air to cpu area, psu. when tightening the last screw, the drill slips then strips the screw. now the screw stuck on the fan. next time i must pre-drill the fan with the fan laying on the floor, prior mounting the fan to computer case. harddisk temperature after rather long uptime : 26 celcius with front fan installed. i dont know harddisk temperature without front fan installed. i used to live in different room when the harddisk does not being cooled with front fan, in that room the computer sat near hvac vent blowing hot air, 30 celcius was the hd temp at that time. cpu temp with top fan pushing air to interior : initial temperature : : 32 celcius temperature during idle : 30 celcius temperature during stress test : stress test javascript ( 57 % cpu0 load ) : 40 celcius https://greensock.com/js/speed.html from google (javascript stress test) result 1 with firefox 51.0.1 internet browser [mistake] [realised]16 feb 2017[/realised] room temperature is rather cool : [/mistake] temperature in ashburn city, virginia state, usa is rather cool : 35 fahrenheit / 2 celcius 1 window is opened 3.5 inches so cool air moving to room interior. 2 side panels, 1 front panel are still not being used. i removed the dvd writer because dvd writer has never been used. 13 feb 2017 1:31am succeed removing stripped screw from top panel of antec.com->300 using plier. following https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz1SatVZ-zE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI2hl3Zfi6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEZyUzt8xys 17:31 bought screw #10 x 1/2 inches hex head slotted made by everbilt in homedepot. newegg reviewer says slotted head is harder to break than phillips head. source : https://www.newegg.com/Product/NewProduct.aspx?Item=N82E16811993009&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&ignorebbr=1&IsFeedbackTab=true&RandomID=26008701062057220170213143401 apparently the everbilt screw can drill the fan and hold the fan to antec.com->300. but the everbilt screw protrude from top panel. because the hex head of the everbilt screw is bigger than original screw from antec.com->300. slotted head is intended to be used by human. phillip head is intended to be used by machine. source : 1. 'Phillips heads exist because the flat head does very poorly when you have a machine turning the screws. These machines tend to be very powerful and the flat head screws would get over tightened and break. So the Phillips was designed so that the bit would slip out if it reached that point. The down side is that this "feature" works fairly shitty when it's a human doing the work by hand or using a low power consumer drill.' in https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1m8snq/eli5_why_we_have_two_types_of_screw_headsdrivers/ from google (slotted head harder to strip than phillip head) result 6 2. 'The Phillips screwdriver was invented in Portland, Oregon in the late 1920s by Henry Phillips in an effort to facilitate the installation of screws using power screw drivers in an industrial setting. His design addressed several drawbacks to slotted screwdrivers, the most common type of screwdriver at that time. One of these drawbacks was the tendency of slotted drivers to over-torque a screw. The Phillips screwdriver was designed to purposely pull-away or "cam-out" when the torque becomes too great. This prevents the screw head from snapping off and also allows the operator to know when the screw is fully seated. Early power screwdrivers did not have torque limiters so cam-out was a decided advantage of the Phillips screwdriver.'. 'Other advantages of the Phillips screwdriver over the slotted screwdriver: 1) it is easier to seat the bit into the screw head, and 2) it is easier to keep the bit in place once it's seated (slotted screwdrivers have a tendency to slide out of the screw due to centrifugal force).' in http://www.howstuffcompares.com/doc/s/slotted-screwdriver-vs-philips-screwdriver.htm from google (slotted head vs phillips head) result 3 15 feb 2017 11:07 stanley 10 pc MultiBit Ratcheting Screwdriver http://www.stanleytools.com/en-us/products/automotive-tools/screwdrivers/phillips-pocket-standard/10-pc-multibit-ratcheting-screwdriver/68-010#reviews with phillip tip, is the screwdriver which destroyed the head of the phillip screw which attach 140mm fan to top panel of antec.com->300. the story is : my hand was grabbing the handle of that stanley screwdriver, the screwdriver tip has been inserted to the screw, when i begin to twist my hand to twist the screwdriver clockwise or counterclockwise, the handle twist but the shank of the screwdriver does not twist immediately, after i twist my hand a lot then the shank begin to twist. so twisting the handle of that screwdriver, a little, will not twist the shank of that screwdriver. twisting the handle a lot will twist the shank of that screwdriver. so the shank has a delay when responding to the twisting of the handle. i set that screwdriver to neutral transmission when using that. but i feel setting that screwdriver to clockwise or counterclockwise transmission, does not eliminate delay between twisting the handle and twisting the shank. next time i will use old fashioned screwdriver. 16 feb 2017 10:08 memory ram speed only matter for gaming, and the fps improvement is 2 fps, more fps gained if overclocking cpu. for encoding, memory ram speed does not matter. source : 1. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274826-28-1066-1333 from google (1333mhz ddr3 vs 1066mhz benchmark) result 3 2. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-speed-tests,1807-12.html from google (tomshardware ram speed benchmark) result 1 24 feb 2017 19:32 what encourage me to go to local homedepot searching replacement screw for fan screw in antec.com->300, is reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_case_screws , reading user manual for nzxt h440 which describe the screw size for fan, https://www.nzxt.com/products/h440-white click downloads, click 'h440 manual' 28 feb 2017 16:10 turned off top fan in antec.com->300, cpu load temp = 38 celcius cpu idle temp = 31 celcius ashburn outdoor temp = 19 celcius 1 window is opened 3.5 inches so top fan is not necessary apparently. if top fan is turned on then top fan sucked hot, cold air, both hot and cold air rise. fan sucks all kind of air, hot, cold air source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L41UdAf1VuA&t=7m7s if top fan is turned off then only hot air should rise because physics says hot air rise, cool air descend. maybe turning on top fan is bad idea because cool air should stay inside the case, hot air should rise exit the case. rear fan still blow air to cpu, and should push warm residue air from cpu, away from cpu. psu maybe gets occasional warm residue air from harddrive fan. 21:09 i meant initially top fan was pushing air to psu, now i turned off top fan and cpu temp remained ok as described above. 1 march 2017 16:50 htpc case seems better than tower case. because cpu lay horizontal in htpc case. so the heat from cpu spread thermal paste without disturbance from gravity. source : 'When the processor is operating, the heat spreads the TIM across the top of the processor integrated heat spreader and the bottom of the fan-heatsink' in http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/processors/000005576.html from 3rd reference in 'Intel, crit.tv, Arctic GmbH recommend to squeeze a pea-sized amount of thermal grease onto the center of the CPU.[6][7][8]' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_grease#cite_note-8 from google (thermal paste) result 2 the htpc case should have : - horizontal laying harddisk - horizontal laying cd rom because centripetal force from spinning cd rom, spinning harddisk, should be free from disturbance from gravity. source : 'Unlike horizontal circular motion, in vertical circular motion the speed, as well as the direction of the object, is constantly changing. Gravity is constantly either speeding up the object as it falls, or slowing the object down as it rises.' in http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=OscillatoryMotion_VerticalCircles.xml from google (vertical circular motion gravity) result 3 harddisk fan is necessary, most htpc seems dont have fan to cool down harddisk. 2 march 2017 15:28 silverstone gd09 has harddisk laid vertically , no fan blowing air directly to harddisk. source : http://cdn.overclock.net/7/79/795844bd_IMG_2930.jpeg from 'For an example, here is my setup previously....' in http://www.overclock.net/t/1395186/silverstone-grandia-gd0x-owners-club/60 from google-image-search (grandia gd09 harddisk) row 4, col 2 4 march 2017 12:59 est turned off these fans: - rear panel fan - top panel fan running these fans : - intel cpu fan on intel cpu heatsink - harddisk cage fan - psu fan these components are removed : - both side panels - front panel - dvd writer - expansion slot metal covers outdoor temp = 4 celcius from google (ashburn virginia temperature) result 1 cpu idle temp = 28 celcius cpu load/running temp = 33 celcius running https://greensock.com/js/speed.html from google (javascript stress test) result 1 harddisk temp = 22 celcius so that saves more electricity bill. 13:58 i have done the above long time ago then smelled plastic odor sometimes. i smell that same plastic odor again sometimes. i smell that plastic odor as i am located 1/2 meter away from antec.com->300. but my nose can not smell that plastic odor inside antec.com->300. the plastic odor is not intense and not always can be smelled. maybe that smell came from dust inside psu, i opened, cleaned that psu 15 jan 2017 afternoon, but i did not remove psu cicuit board from psu housing because removing psu circuit board from psu housing need to remove psu cable from small hole in psu cover, i fear about detaching psu cable accidentally then not knowing how to reattach psu cable. reassembling psu cover was difficult. paintbrush was used to sweep dust away from psu circuit board then i blew dust away with air from my mouth while closing my eyes, blew dust toward bathtub because bathtub becomes clean automatically when bathing. 5 march 2017 14:29 est shutdown 1 cpu core, so i only use 1 cpu core. that should save more electricity bill. maybe thermal paste artic silver 5 wants to be laid horizontally, thermal paste dow corning tc 1996 can be laid vertically. because dow corning tc 1996 deform at 177 celcius. thermal paste artic silver 5 thins out (spread?) during initial cpu usage. source : 'During the CPU's initial use, the compound thins out to enhance the filling of the microscopic valleys and ensure the best physical contact between the heatsink and the CPU core. Then the compound thickens slightly over the next 50 to 200 hours of use to its final consistency designed for long-term stability. (This should not be confused with conventional phase change pads that are pre-attached to many heatsinks. Those pads melt each time they get hot then re-solidify when they cool. The viscosity changes that Arctic Silver 5 goes through are much more subtle and ultimately much more effective.)' in http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm from google (Arctic Silver 5) result 1 thermal paste dow corning tc 1996 'resist changes in consistency at temperatures up to 177°C (350°F)' source : http://www.casmoon.com/upfile/file/20141020/2014102020522923160.pdf from google (dow corning tc 1996) result 2 15:05 est thermaltake core v21 has harddisk mounted vertically source : http://benchmarkreviews.com/23775/thermaltake-core-v21-micro-atx-case-review/4/ from google image (thermaltake cube hard disk fan) row 4, last col 15:27 est artic silver has instruction how to put thermal apste source : http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appmeth/int/vl/intel_app_method_vertical_line_v1.1.pdf from 'Celeron® Dual Core Processor' in http://www.arcticsilver.com/intel_application_method.html# 7 march 2017 7:24 est the plastic odor comes from hvac vent, not from psu, not from computer. 13:20 est thermal paste seems really necessary. athlon 64 3k+ cpu temp under load : 38 celcius room temp : 17 celcius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX6AN4vWZP0 core i7-5820k @ 4 ghz @ 1.12 v with enermax t40 heatsink room temp : 18 celcius arctic mx-4 50 celcius nothing 76 celcius vegemite 61 celcius toothpaste 61 celius mayo 61 celcius tomato sauce 59 celcius chicken 62 celcius source : 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-pr4cf70qY&t=4m2s 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-pr4cf70qY&t=2m45s (turned on 'cc') thermal paste not working incidents causes : 1. high performance mode is on, turning on turbo boost mode permanently source : http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1979985/cpu-heat-rising-constantly-thermal-compound.html from http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3275761/cpu-usage-skyrockets-reapplying-thermal-paste.html 2. heat sink does not attach to cpu properly source : http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2674818/high-temperatures-reapplying-thermal-paste.html 3. spreading the thermal paste using credit card, is claimed to cause the thermal paste to get hot, melted then drip to mobo source : http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/266731-29-applying-thermal-paste 4. not removing motherboard from chassis, prior installing heatsink. source : http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264984-28-after-applying-thermal-paste-temp-skyrocketed from google (thermal paste temperature skyrocket) 8 march 2017 12:00pm est coolermaster haf 915r almost meet my criteria, because harddisk cage fan is only 1 with size 92mm. source : http://us.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/case/mini-itx/haf915r.html maybe 120mm should be minimum size for harddisk cage fan because 120mm is the size for harddisk cage fan in antec.com->300. coolermaster elite 310 has 120mm front fan but that 120mm harddisk front fan seems intended to blow air to mobo not harddisk because the hd seems located above that 120mm front fan source : 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlW6hw0WUpw&t=4m57s 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlW6hw0WUpw&t=10m21s silverstone sg13 can only has 1 3.5 hd. i prefer minimum 2 3.5 hd source : http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=536 bitfenix Prodigy Mini-ITX constrict air blown by 120mm front fan to holes in harddisk cage. so air blown by 120mm fan, some hit the wall on harddisk cage. source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7DYbeolPNw&t=3m21s same problem with thermaltake x series, x9, harddisk is being blown from the side with harddisk enclosure has little vertical segment blocking air blown by front fan source : picture in 4th row in http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/reviews/hardware/cases/34017-reviewed-thermaltake-core-x9-e-atx-case.html?start=3 from 'interior setup (1)' in http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/reviews/hardware/cases/34017-reviewed-thermaltake-core-x9-e-atx-case.html?start=3 from google image (thermaltake core x9 hard disk) page 8 result col 2 last row thermaltake x series cost : x9 166 usd x5 178 usd x2 135 usd x1 98 usd source : google antec isk600m has 80mm exhaust fan behind harddrive cage, exhaust fan can be reversed to become intake fan to blow toward harddrive cage, but size is 80mm, that's smaller than my current 120mm harddrive fan in antec.com->300. width of desktop harddrive = 101.6 mm, so 80mm is smaller than harddrive width source : '101.6' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive from google (3.5 hard drive) result 6 silverstone sg13 has its harddrive located too high so the front 140mm fan blow air rather underneath the harddrive. so the top of harddrive seems not being blown by front 140mm fan. source : 'drives into drive cage' in http://www.silverstonetek.com/downloads/Manual/case/Multi-SG13-Manual.pdf silverstone sg05 front fan seems can not blow air to the roof of harddrive, cd rom drive is laptop size which cost more expensive than desktop sized cd rom. but i rarely use cd rom now, operating system can be installed from usb drive. not installing cd rom, having only 1 harddrive, saves electricity bill source : 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUkEy2anNTg&t=6m59s 2. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6167/silverstone-sugo-sg05-the-miniitx-standard-bearer/3 from google (silverstone sg05) result 7 maybe vga fan https://www.newegg.com/VGA-Cooling/SubCategory/ID-576?Tid=8006 can be installed instead of vga card to send air to mobo area but silverstone sg05 harddrive is being hold by a bracket which has wall, that wall could block some air from front fan source : 'Install your 3.5” hard drive onto the bracket as shown' in http://www.silverstonetek.com/downloads/CASE/Multi-SG05-Manual.pdf thermaltake suppressor, core v21 has harddrive vertically mounted source : 1. 'hdd installation' in http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/db/support/usermanual/_fe33885cb0804fb0a711eff46c78da55.pdf 2. picture row 5 in http://benchmarkreviews.com/23775/thermaltake-core-v21-micro-atx-case-review/4/ 19:27 est silverstone grandia09b has the roof of hd being covered by black platform for cd rom, so the roof of hd seems not being cooled down by the fan. source : 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HhZ3Tf1myI&t=8m14s 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HhZ3Tf1myI&t=11m28s 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HhZ3Tf1myI&t=12m50s 9 march 2017 10:34am est ssd disadvantage : 'it can only sustain a finite number of writes before it dies. There is a lot of science that goes into explaining why this happens, but suffice it to say that as the SSD is used, the electrical charges within cells must be periodically reset. Unfortunately, the electrical resistance increases slightly with every reset, which increases the voltage necessary to write into a cell. Eventually, the required voltage becomes so high that the particular cell becomes essentially useless. Thus, a finite number of writes' in http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/solidstate-drives-work-makeuseof-explains/ from google (how ssd work) result 3 the roof of harddrive has holes, those holes must not be covered like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HhZ3Tf1myI&t=11m28s source : 'allows for equalization of air pressure between the inside and outside of the drive. While it is not a complete pass-through of outside air into the HDD internals, there is a filter inside the hole that allows the air pressure to equalize.' in https://www.howtogeek.com/127433/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-do-not-cover-this-hole-hole-on-hard-drives/ from google (hdd do not cover hole) result 1 18:57 est 2 lian-li.com cases seems meet my criteria. pc-v33 : - fit atx, microatx - harddisk sits on a flat platform - 2nd floor 2 front fans (intake) - 1st floor 1 rear fan (exhaust) pc-v358 - fit microatx only - harddisk floats, being suspended by harddisk cage harddisk cooling seems better. - 2nd floor 2 side fans (intake) - 1st floor 2 front fans (intake), 1 rear fan (exhaust) - possible drawback : - not enough power socket for fan. - fit slim cdrom which cost more expensive than normal cdrom v33 : maybe reversing airflow of rear 120mm fan to blow air toward harddisk, cool down harddisk better pc-v33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gWbLE0BUlI&t=8m16s pc-v358 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrsfTB27dgg&t=2m33s 21 march 2017 13:21 coolermaster haf xb has a comment criticising harddisk not being cooled down. source : 'It has very little to no airflow at the HDD bay areas and this case is know for killing hard-drives' from comment from 'rondo cat' in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhjoYbVX1XU 25 march 2017 19:25 edt apevia X-MASTER-BK/500 htpc case has harddisk installed vertically source : http://htpcbuild.com/admin/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/HardDriveInstall.jpg from pic 9 in http://htpcbuild.com/hardware/all-in-one-htpc-build/install-guide/ from google-image (apevia X-MASTER-BK/500 harddisk) result row 3 col 3 28 march 2017 18:37 asus bios says south bridge stepping is b3 so my asus motherboard is not defective. going to bios is the only way for me to check chipset stepping. asus says chipset stepping but bios says south bridge stepping. source : 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#Cougar_Point_chipset_flaw 2. http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/Identify_B3_Motherboards/ 6 april 2017 20:47 edt http://www.highspeedpc.com/category_s/1814.htm seems like a cool computer case from http://web.computerpilot.com/2013/02/lian-li-pitstop-diy-test-bench-technical-review/ from google-image (diy test bench) result row 2 col 1 maybe there is enough space between harddisk roof and upper shelf because there are holes in harddisk roof which must not be covered. source : 1. http://www.thinkcomputers.org/reviews/hspc_techstation/26.jpg from http://www.thinkcomputers.org/highspeed-pc-top-deck-tech-station-review/3/ google-image (highspeed pc Original Tech Station harddisk) result page 2 row 4 col 2 2. https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2006/03/02/highspeed_pc_tech_station/5 from google-image ( highspeed pc Original Tech Station harddisk ) result page 3 last col row 3 8 april 2017 17:06 edt highspeed pc chassis does not fasten cdrom psu with screw so cdrom psu can fell down when being hit sideway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLLldij3RFU&t=2m15s dimastech harddisk cage http://shop.dimastech.it/en/dimastech-hd-support-35-special-4-slot--with-120mm-graphite-black-frontal-fan-support and chassis written under 'Compatibility:' seems cool. dimastech chassis fasten cdrom, psu with screw : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ScBVdoUW8&t=4m24s , letting cdrom, psu loose, unfastened by screw is fine, computer chassis stay still all the time. dimastech harddisk cage seems fit 4 harddisks. highspeed pc fit 2 harddisks. does highspeed pc harddisk allow attaching harddisk fan from underneath without hitting the rail which hold harddisk. i doubt dimastech harddisk cage http://shop.dimastech.it/en/dimastech-hd-support-35-special-4-slot--with-120mm-graphite-black-frontal-fan-support still fit 4 harddisks with each harddisk having harddisk fan https://www.newegg.com/Hard-Drive-Cooling/SubCategory/ID-577?Tid=8002 attached on underneath of each harddisk because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ScBVdoUW8&t=4m24s shows how near the distance is between 1 harddisk and the next harddisk on the top or on underneath. 17:21 edt highspeed pc chassis letting cdrom, psu unfastened by screw is dangerous because if highspeed pc chassis is being put on the floor and someone's feet hit the highspeed pc chassis a little bit, the psu and cdrom may fell down on the floor breaking hardwood floor. 21:36 edt dimastech easyxl has psu draw air sideway : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7H-7TlroLE&t=11m11s 16 april 2017 20:46 edt with 1 cpu core runs, the other cpu core is shutdown to save electricity, 1 core cpu temp : outdoor temp in ashburn, virginia, usa : 76.8 fahrenheit, 24 celcius source : https://www.wunderground.com/us/va/ashburn from google (ashburn virginia temp) result 4 with a fan blowing air to my room : cpu temp after boot : unknown cpu temp during idle : 39 celcius cpu temp during stress test javascript : 45 celcius during 100% load in 1 cpu running stress test : https://greensock.com/js/speed.html from google (javascript stress test) result 1 with firefox 51.0.1 internet browser 1 cpu core need 100% cpu load to run that javascript stress test 2 cpu cores need 50% cpu load maybe for each cpu core. my cpu system-load-monitor for linuxmint-xfce only has 1 monitor, 21 april 2017 18:42 edt putting motherboard on carpet floor may create static electricity source : http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/636991-Is-it-safe-to-put-the-motherboard-on-the-table-when-adding-components from google (put motherboard on the floor) result 2 3 august 2017 16:00 edt installing discrete (stand alone) video card increase power consumption to 30 watt during idle (doing nothing) source : 'adding a graphics card increases system idle power. This is the case across the board, as you can see a pretty straight increase on all systems: it's an addition of roughly 30 W compared to the power consumption from an integrated platform' in http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-efficienct-32-nm,2831-7.html 16:05 edt memory power consumption is 4 watt for each memory. source : 'Dell's Power Advisor calculates that 4 GB ECC DDR1333 RDIMMs use about 4 W each.[12]' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM 18 september 2017 18:12 edt reading https://www.facebook.com/EnermaxUSA/photos/a.10150160169604954.341875.81272339953/10155790895804954/?type=3 made me compare that case Enermax ECA3520 and my current case antec.com->300 Dimensions (H x W x D) 18.30" x 8.10" x 18.00" Weight 15.9 lbs source : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 from google (antec 300) result 1 Enermax ECA3520 Dimensions (H x W x D) 20.08" x 8.19" x 17.71" Weight 16.75 lbs. source : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811580003&cm_re=Enermax_ECA3520_ATX-_-11-580-003-_-Product so my case antec.com->300 is more lightweight. 27 oct 2017 10:34 am edt i realised https://www.facebook.com/EnermaxUSA/photos/a.10150160169604954.341875.81272339953/10155790895804954/?type=3 Enermax ECA3520 includes 2 120mm led fans in the front panel. antec.com->300 does not include 2 120mm fans in the front panel. my antec.com->300 has the rear 120mm fan being moved to the front panel and that is enough because my antec.com->300 has only 1 harddisk in the front panel and my antec.com->300 does not have side panel installed. so 0.85 lbs difference ( 16.75 lbs - 15.9 lbs ) between enermax eca3520 and antec.com->300 maybe comes from the weight of 2 120mm led fans preinstalled in the front panel of enermax eca3520. 5 nov 2017 2:51 est 9.70 lbs is the weight of the cheapest lianli case atx mobo. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112328 from https://www.newegg.com/Computer-Cases/BrandSubCat/ID-1375-7?Order=PRICE that lianli case is made from aluminum. aluminum maybe can not be detected by earth-magnet. computer-case made from steel should be detected by earth-magnet. 3:08 est feng shui used compass. source : 'compass' in https://www.thespruce.com/how-do-i-take-the-right-compass-reading-1274516 from google (feng shui compass) result 1 compass is made from steel. but lightweight aluminium computer case reduce wood fatigue, metal fatigue in the pillar of a house if the computer case is located on 2nd floor. 24 nov 2017 2:08 pm est ddr4 memory can not be inserted to ddr3 motherboard source : google (ddr4 backward compatible with ddr3) thinking of adding memory to my father's laptop, dell inspiron m5040, currently has 4 gb ram but 3.8 gb ram available because m5040 integrated video card must have been eating the rest of the ram (around 2 mb). whether m5040 accepts 1 piece 8 gb memory dimm. 'The Inspiron M5040 system supports dual-channel DDR3 SDRAM with memory speeds of 1333 MHz to a maximum of 8GB(2X4GB). You can upgrade depending on the memory currently installed on your computer. If you currently have a 4GB memory module on your system, you can add another 4GB. If your system currently has 2x2GB memory modules, you can either remove one 2GB module and add a 4GB module to make it 6GB or you can add two 4GB modules to make it 8GB. ' in http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19660859 from yahoo (dell m5040 memory) result 1 does that mean 1 memory slot has 4 gb memory dimm size limit ? can 1 memory slot accept 8 gb memory dimm ? memory power consumption is 4 watt for each memory. source : 'Dell's Power Advisor calculates that 4 GB ECC DDR1333 RDIMMs use about 4 W each.[12]' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM so installing 1 big memory dimm is more power-efficient, producing less nuclear waste than installing 2 semi-big memory dimm. 1 dec 2017 5:56 pm est there is a poll https://www.facebook.com/InWinUSA/photos/a.149741398439811.39078.143503449063606/1599049373508999/?type=3&theater showing a case with a glass side panel. makes me remember that.. if that case is being left in outdoor area under the sun accidentally then glass side panel can create greenhouse effect, raising temperature inside that case. a car being parked under the sun can make that car's interior temperature reaches 172 f (78 c) when outdoor temperature reaches 80 f (26 c) source : 1. 'On hotter days, temperatures can reach over 150°F', in http://www.sae.org/standardsdev/tsb/cooperative/int_temp.pdf from google (car interior temperature in summer) result 2 2. 'Basically the car becomes a greenhouse', 'When temperatures outside range from 80 degrees to 100 degrees, the temperature inside a car parked in direct sunlight can quickly climb to between 130 to 172' in http://heatkills.org/how-hot/ 3. '65.556 degrees celsius' in google (150 f to ce) result 1 4. '26.667 degrees celsius' in google (80 f to c) a computer case contain cmos battery (lithium ion battery). lithium ion battery should be stored in cool place source : Store the battery at temperatures between 5 °C and 20 °C (41 °F and 68 °F). NOTE. The battery self-discharges during storage. Higher temperatures (above 20 °C or 68 °F) reduce the battery storage life in http://www.newark.com/pdfs/techarticles/tektronix/LIBMG.pdf from google (lithium battery storage temperature) result 4 harddisk inside computer case should be stored in cool place as well. source : Temperature, Operating (°C) 0 to 60 Temperature, Nonoperating (°C) -40 to 70 in http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/297065-32-minimum-hard-drive-temperature from google (harddisk platter storage temperature) result 7 metal computer case side panel is more protective for transport. computer case side panel should be removed when that computer is not being transported, to allow more air to cool down the interior of computer case. aluminium case is easily scratched but lightweight, does not induce wood fatigue, metal fatigue on building pillars. 25 december 2017 6:40 pm est add 'computer (indo, maybe year 2000 maybe year 2001)' in this text 25 december 2017 7:00 pm est 25 june 2017 maybe between 3 pm to 5 pm, i tried to remove heat sink from dell's motherboard for dell dimension 8250 but failed. i succeed using a wrench to destroy 4 plastic screws tips, those 4 tips stick out underneath dimension 8250 motherboard tray, those 4 screw tips looks like a cone which can shrink to penetrate motherboard tray then the screw tips cone enlarge so the screw tips can not be pulled out from motherboard tray, so i destroy those 4 screw tips cones by grabbing those 4 screw tips using a wrench then twist the wrench repeatedly. destroying those 4 screw tips makes those 4 screw tips cones thin enough to fit the screw hole and can be pulled out from motherboard tray. then i fail using a wrench to push those 4 plastic screws tips to unplug those 4 plastic screws from the heat sink. maybe 11 or 12 or 13 october 2017 (dog month), around 7:30 pm est (dog hour), i succeed using a flat head screwdriver to wedge away those 4 plastic screws, to unplug those 4 plastic screws from the heat sink. then i remove the heat sink from dimension 8250 motherboard. those 4 plastic screws have a screw head which is smooth, does not have 'slotted recessed drive', does not have 'phillips recessed drive', rather flexible, can be destroyed rather easily. if a screw head is destroyed then removing that headless screw would be more difficult, i stick a flat head screwdriver below that screw head then twist that flat head screwdriver clockwise, counterclockwise repeatedly to push away that screw head from the heat sink. recessed drive source : 'recessed drive' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw from google (screw wiki) result 1 (revised 29 dec 2017 8:43 pm est, 30 dec 2017 4:41 pm est, 31 dec 2017 10:51 am est) 1 february 2018 9:4 pm est year 2007 i bought 2 laptops 1 for deborah, 1 for my father, custom ordered from lenovo website. x60 models, 1 for deborah still works, the other x60 for my father broke after 1.5 years, the warranty is 1 year. maybe the motherboard broke, that x60 could not boot, only shows black screen. lenovo technician willing to repair that x60 for maybe 600 usd maximum. i did not repair that x60 laptop. i check the maximum repair cost is 700 usd now. source : '700' in https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T61-and-prior-T-series/Cost-to-repair-out-of-warranty-t60/td-p/234142 from google (lenovo laptop repair cost after warranty) result 2 that dell inspiron m5040, bought in early february 2012, in bestbuy, still works now. custom order maybe has higher defect risk. maybe it is better to buy whatever laptop is available on the shelf in a store. 3 february 2018 3:06 pm est dell inspiron m5040 shutdown by itself. file /var/log/syslog shows : Feb 3 09:28:21 a kernel: [ 4910.292598] perf: interrupt took too long (2523 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 79250 --> maybe that m5040 shutdown by itself here then i turn on that m5040.... Feb 3 09:38:19 a rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="8.16.0" x-pid="848" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] start 20 aug 2018 4:51 pm edt, 7:2 pm edt, 7:4 pm edt july 2017, ram month : i broke my dell-dimension-8250's harddisk. harddisk model is western-digital wd-caviar wd1200. i ran that dell-dimension-8250 without its case. i discard that dell-dimension-8250-case after event https://www.facebook.com/arnon.jaya/posts/10158956867010441?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARAEpWyRbr7WlkTX7c27kYKQPYhBdWkE2S-naWqMW8i1LFMiok__3qi7G7vQtkUY7B9xL8YzytFxrZuGbL1i8sx_h0UEMKyRLIWumLYwsJtbE2Nk5pBMAGWbmIC2-zUDqsFDWnYd519h&__tn__=-R i don't know whether republic-garbage-collector https://www.republicservices.com/all-in-one-recycling?tab=local from google (republic trash recycling) recycle that case or not. dell-dimension-8250 motherboard is foxconn-motherboard. dell-dimension-8250 has motherboard-tray for that foxconn-motherboard. i thought that motherboard-tray can become open-air-case but no... because a stand-alone-video-card has a metal-plate for connector for vga-cable, that metal-plate-connector will go below that motherboard-tray, trying to puncture floor where that motherboard-tray sits. i tried putting that motherboard-tray above a cardboard, then i put that harddisk above a cardboard as well because of harddisk-cable-length-limitation. so i ran that harddisk sitting above a cardboard then that harddisk suffer read-ddmy-dma-error. then i realised that harddisk-heat comes out from underneath harddisk as well as from above harddisk. so much heat comes out from underneath harddisk even though that harddisk is outside a case.... i was trying to run that old harddisk from dell-dimension-8250 to transfer files from my other computer with broken-linuxmint. i tried to play crash-bandicoot video-game in my linuxmint then i can not boot my linuxmint. then i use that old harddisk from dell-dimension-8250, to save files from my linuxmint. 22 sep 2018 3:51 am edt add find 'review for computer-case lian-li pc-65b :' in this text 25 sep 2018 3:39 pm edt add find 'review for asus-p8h61-m le :' in this text 25 sep 2018 7:27 pm edt add reason i sell this computer in craigslist : [25 sep 2018 7:17 pm edt] 12 oct 2018 4:26 pm edt add suggestion : maybe if cmos battery is not on motherboard then 12 oct 2018 4:30 pm edt add 'b' for enter 'bios' 12 oct 2018 4:34 pm edt add so mouse-click-action is reduced. 12 oct 2018 5:1 pm edt add 12 oct 2018 5:1 pm to enter today's date and timezone : 11 dec 2018 12:59 pm est:insert 'put usb-memory inside motherboard to remember user-selection?' 11 dec 2018 1:4 pm est:insert 'but usb-memory maybe is not worth installing because motherboard-clock still need cmos-battery' 17 jul 2020 3:27 pm edt: (1/5)#add# #c-1# (2/5)#add# #c-2# (3/5)#add# #c-3# (4/5)#reword# dell 17 inch 1708fpt lcd #to# (1)1-sep-2007 => 17-jun-2019 around 5 pm edt : dell->1708-fpt lcd-17-inch 223 usd. ending : produce clear-smoke from right-edge-area and produce burning-odor and show flickering display then stop showing display then i use parents-money to pay 25 usd to bestbuy to recycle that dell->1708-fpt) [source:dell.com->email-receipt] (5/5)#add# (2)18-jun-2019 around 12:40 pm edt : hp->21-kd lcd-20.7-inch 91 usd [source:bestbuy.com->email-receipt] 17 jul 2020 3:33 pm edt: #reword# - speaker : harman kardon hk395 #to# - speaker : sometimes harman-kardon-hk-395, sometimes maxtron (maybe china-made-speaker, from my father from indonesia) 17 jul 2020 3:36 pm edt: #reword# (my sister deborah kim nee jaya used this speaker then used laptop then i took this speaker) #to# (my sister deborah-kim used harman-kardon-hk-395 then my father sometimes use harman-kardon-hk-395, i use maxtron) 17 jul 2020 3:37 pm edt:#reword# $175.31 #to# 175.31 usd 17 jul 2020 3:43 pm edt: #reword# - power supply : dynex model : dx-400wps 400 watt #to# - power supply : dynex model : dx-400wps 400 watt [dynexproducts.com/pdp/DX-400WPS/8311052 from google (dx-400wps) result 3] 4 sep 2020 9:24 pm edt: year 2008, during working in iowa-state-uni->veterinary-diagnostics-lab, my supervisor randy-berghefer give flexibility to custom-order dell.com->optiplex-mid-tower-desktop to me. i choose 2 western-digital->raptor-10,000-rpm hard-disk. 1 western-digital->raptor-10,000-rpm-hard-disk fail then dell-warranty renew that failed western-digital->raptor-10,000-rpm-hard-disk. now i realise that western-digital->raptor-10,000-rpm-hard-disk must have been hotter than normal-and-usual 7200 rpm hard-disk. dell.com did not put hard-disk-fan to cool-down that 2 western-digital->raptor-10,000-rpm-hard-disk. so dell.com has good-warranty. but bad-design ? or maybe dell lack supplier willing to supply hard-disk-fan. i resign-then-left-2-week-after-randy-berghefer-approve-resignation-request, 19-nov-2010 i stop using that dell-desktop. [addition 4 sep 2020 9:49 pm edt] why i think dell.com suffer problem finding supplier ? find 'usa provide right to refuse customer' in wortel.ucoz.com/youtube_etc.htm [addition 4 sep 2020 10:2 pm edt] antec.com->antec-300-desktop has a place for hard-disk-fan but antec.com did not put hard-disk-fan. antec.com-customer must buy hard-disk-fan separately. so maybe antec.com suffer problem finding hard-disk-fan-supplier as well. [/addition 4 sep 2020 10:2 pm edt] [addition 25 sep 2020 3:7 pm edt] every-time i attach hard-disk-fan to computer-case, hard-disk-fan-screw-hole become bigger then eventually screw can not attach hard-disk-fan to computer-case. so i prefer computer-case which come with hard-disk-fan already attached. [/addition 25 sep 2020 3:7 pm edt] [/addition 4 sep 2020 9:49 pm edt] [addition 4 sep 2020 10:25 pm edt] find 'electric-cable interfere compass:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcPDc23ZLEs#15_jan_2019_5_4_pm_est (The Deflection of a Magnetic Compass Needle by a Current in a Wire) from youtube-search(electricity compass)result 1' in wortel.ucoz.com/youtube_etc.htm so hard-disk-fan-cable maybe interfere hard-disk-internal-component but hard-disk-metal-shell maybe protective-faraday-cage. heat-problem maybe is more destructive. [/addition 4 sep 2020 10:25 pm edt] 4 sep 2020 9:44 pm edt:#reword# i resign-then-left 20-nov-2010 #to# i resign-then-left 19-nov-2010 4 sep 2020 9:50 pm edt:#add# addition 4 sep 2020 9:49 pm edt 4 sep 2020 9:54 pm edt: #reword# i resign-then-left 19-nov-2010, i stop using that dell-desktop #to# i resign-then-left-2-week-after-randy-berghefer-approve-resignation-request, 19-nov-2010 i stop using that dell-desktop. 4 sep 2020 10:11 pm edt:#add# addition 4 sep 2020 10:2 pm edt 4 sep 2020 10:14 pm edt: (1)#reword# lian li #to# lian-li.com (2)#reword# pc-65b #to# pc-65-b (3)#add# [source:'lian-li.com' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lian_Li] (4)#reword# antec-300 #to# antec.com->300 (5)#reword# antec 300 #to# antec.com->300 4 sep 2020 10:22 pm edt:#add# [source:'antec.com' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antec] 4 sep 2020 10:26 pm edt:#add# addition 4 sep 2020 10:25 pm edt 6 sep 2020 3:44 pm edt: #reword# custom-order dell.com-desktop to me #to# custom-order dell.com->optiplex-mid-tower-desktop to me #because i received reminder from# washingtondc.craigslist[dot]org/nva/sop/d/aldie-dell-optiplex-755-8gb-3ghz-250gb/7191398179.html 25 sep 2020 3:9 pm edt:#add# addition 25 sep 2020 3:7 pm edt 25 sep 2020 3:12 pm edt: #reword# so i prefer computer-case which come with hard-disk-fan already installed, attached. #to# so i prefer computer-case which come with hard-disk-fan already attached. 28 sep 2020 8:49 pm edt:#add# google.com/maps/@-6.9846981,110.431562,3a,75y,302.78h,76.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOoB9NYSqGdLlsYTCFVz4Rw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 2 oct 2020 6:4 pm edt: #add# L1-cache 64 kb x 2, L2-cache 1.12 mb [source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_64#San_Diego_(90_nm_SOI) from wikipedia -> ( AMD San diego ) result 3] hypertransport 1000 mhz vcore 1.35 v or 1.4 v tdp 104 watt max release-date : 15-apr-2005 2 oct 2020 6:7 pm edt: #reword# - cpu : Intel-Celeron 2.5GHz Processor G540-BX80623G540 #to# - cpu : Intel-Celeron 2.5 GHz Processor G-540-BX80623G540, 2 core, 2 thread, cache 2 mb, memory-bus-speed 5 giga-transfer / second dmi-type, 2 memory-channel, tdp 65 watt [source:https://ark.intel.com/products/53416/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G540-2M-Cache-2_50-GHz] 14 oct 2020 8:44 pm edt:(1/2)#change html-tag to [ and ]# [mistake] (2/2)#change html-tag to [ and ]# [number] ====================================================================== 11 dec 2024 2:44 am est : end 3:53 am est i realise walmart.com only sell restored-condition and refurbished-condition for this laptop-model hp.com->15-fd-008-wm : https://www.walmart.com/search?q=15fd0083wm&typeahead=15fd008-wm , and my mother already buy that hp.com->15-fd-008-wm for my father because my father's dell.com->inspiron-model-with-amd-cpu-e-450 2 cpu-core with maximum frequency 1.65 ghz , start showing power-supply-not-compatible-warning-message during boot , i think that have meaning about to become mortem . [addition 13 dec 2024 5:51 am est] end 5:58 am est today my father's dell.com->inspiron-m-5040-with-amd-cpu-e-450 after getting linuxmint.com-18.2 , power-supply-warning-msg 'ac power adapter wattage and type can not be determined , battery may not charge , system will adjust performance to match power available please connect dell 65 watt adapter or greater for best system performance , strike f3 ( before f1 , f2 key ) if you don't want to see power warning again , strike f1 to continue , f2 to run setup utility' is not showing-up anymore . maybe power-adapter-cable which connect to that dell.com->inspiron-m-5040 , is not fully-in like what forgotten-forum describe , but i feel i always fully-insert that power-adapter-cable to that dell.com->inspiron-m-5040 . target.com-laptop-shop only tell cpu-base-frequency / cpu-minimum-frequency , not telling cpu-turbo-boost-frequency / cpu-burst-frequency / cpu-maximum-frequency . i still need to check 'screw' , 'stand-off' price but today that dell.com->inspiron-m-5040 not showing power-supply-warning-msg , so i delay checking 'screw' , 'stand-off' price . if i choose pre-owned housing in ebay.com then i need 'screw' , 'stand-off' price [/addition 13 dec 2024 5:51 am est] hp.com->15-fd-008-wm contain cpu intel-n-200 4 cpu-core with maximum frequency 3.7 ghz , minimum frequency unknown . i think that is too hot for laptop . dell.com->inspiron-model-with-intel-cpu currently use core i-3--1215-U 2 cpu-core with maximum frequency 4.4 or 3.3 ghz , minimum frequency 1.2 or 0.9 ghz . dell.com->inspiron-model-with-amd-cpu currently use ryzen-3 7320-U 4 cpu-core with maximum frequency 4.1 ghz , minimum frequency 2.4 ghz . so i start searching computer-component and find this interesting merchandise ( replace 'www-ebay' with 'www.ebay' because ucoz.com block '.ebay' ) : ---https://www-ebay.com/itm/286099003697 from https://www-ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=Athlon+64&_sacat=0&_fsrp=1&rt=nc&_odkw=Athlon+64+1ghz&_osacat=0&_dcat=164&Clock%2520Speed=1%252E5%252D1%252E99%2520GHz AMD Athlon 64 2650E 1.6GHz Socket AM2 Desktop CPU ADG2650IAV4DP ( not including thermal-jelly , not including heat-sink , not including heat-sink-fan ) 10 usd am2+ motherboard plus unknown amd-cpu 25 usd plus heat-sink plus heat-sink-fan already attached ---https://www-ebay.com/itm/146178423741 4 giga-byte ddr-2 memory 16 usd ---https://www-ebay.com/itm/196336748806?_skw=ddr2+4gb&hash=item2db6950906:g:W94AAOSwTB5m8c-- Apevia RAPTOR 500 W ATX Power Supply with 120 MM Black Fan 28 usd ---https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apevia-RAPTOR500W-Raptor-500W-ATX-Power-Supply-with-120MM-Black-Fan/9394170327?classType=REGULAR&from=/search ---https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100167523&Order=1&isdeptsrh=1 sata-hard-disk 7200 rpm 320 gb 12 usd ---https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011692&cm_sp=shop-all-products-_-categroy-_-SSD-top ssd 128 gb 9 usd , 256 gb 17 usd https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693&page=2&Order=1&isdeptsrh=1 , 512 gb 28 usd https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693&page=5&Order=1&isdeptsrh=1 Thermaltake Versa H21 SPCC ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis CA-1B2-00M1NN-00,Black 50 usd ---https://www.walmart.com/ip/Thermaltake-Versa-H21-SPCC-ATX-Mid-Tower-Computer-Chassis-CA-1B2-00M1NN-00-Black/13779750444?classType=REGULAR&from=/search or antec-300 35 usd ( maybe antec-300 because harddisk-position is normal , not vertical but now i realise ssd-price is cheap enough now so maybe i choose ssd and choose that new 'Thermaltake Versa H21' then i do not need to buy separate motherboard-screw and power-supply-screw because pre-owned antec-300 maybe lack motherboard-screw lack psu-screw maybe i will ask seller if i decide to buy ) ---https://www-ebay.com/itm/355104504227?_skw=antec+300+case&hash=item52ade0b9a3:g:AnoAAOSwMJFlKYRk or maybe ---https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353183?Item=N82E16811353183 DIYPC DIY-S07 Black Steel ATX USB3.0 Mid Tower Computer Case w 4 x 120mm Black Fan (Pre-Installed) 42 usd , which can only have ssd MSI ATI Radeon RX2600XT 256MB PCIe-x16 GDDR3 DVIx2 Passive Cooling Graphics Card 15 usd ---https://www-ebay.com/itm/125938447436?_skw=pci+express+x16+graphics+card+passive+cooling&hash=item1d5284344c:g:6GoAAOSwbSJkZOsF ASUS GeForce 8400 GS 512MB DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Low Profile Ready Video Card EN8400GS SILENT/DI/512MD2(LP) pre-owned 30 usd new 50 usd ---https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-8400-gs-en8400gs-silent-di-512md2/p/N82E16814121428?Item=9SIAGSCK7G7896 screw for psu/power-supply : come with psu [source : https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/88hj8z/which_screws_for_psu/ from google ( computer case power supply screw ) result 2 ] semi-total 162 usd ( i choose most-expensive-choice for every component ) ---https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-LED-monitor-20-19-5-viewable-1600-x-900-HD-75-Hz-TN-250-cd-m-3000-1-3-ms-HDMI-VGA-speakers-black/984680033 monitor 60 usd ---https://www.newegg.com/p/0GA-0961-00001?Item=9SIBT5SK5E0245 not showing in 'wired' , 'usb' category https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?Order=1&N=101702350%20600009731%20600009662 keyboard 12 usd mouse ...already have total 234 usd ========================================================================= 11 dec 2024 3:54 am est : #add# ( replace 'www-ebay' with 'www.ebay' because ucoz.com block '.ebay' ) ========================================================================= 11 dec 2024 4:24 am est : #add# or maybe ---https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353183?Item=N82E16811353183 with ssd ========================================================================= 11 dec 2024 4:37 am est : ----https://www.10stripe.com/featured/quick/pci-express-2-0.php#bc from google ( pci express 2.0 x 16 backward compatible ) result 1 pcie 2.0 is 100 % backward compatible . pcie 1.x card ought to work in pcie 2.0 motherboard . The link will have to clock down to slower pcie 1.x speed . But since that is as fast as that card is designed to communicate anyway , no performance will be lost. ========================================================================= 11 dec 2024 4:56 am est : #reword# or maybe ---https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353183?Item=N82E16811353183 with ssd #to# or maybe ---https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353183?Item=N82E16811353183 DIYPC DIY-S07 Black Steel ATX USB3.0 Mid Tower Computer Case w 4 x 120mm Black Fan (Pre-Installed) 42 usd , which can only have ssd ========================================================================= 11 dec 2024 5 am est : #add# maybe i will ask seller if i decide to buy ========================================================================= 12 dec 2024 12:4 am est : screw : (1)psu , 3.5 inch hard-drive : 6-32 screw (2)cd-rom-drive , motherboard : m-3 x 0.5 (3)motherboard-stand-off . [source : https://superuser.com/questions/326203/is-there-a-standard-name-for-the-standard-computer-screw from google ( motherboard psu harddisk screw size ) result 1 ] ========================================================================== 13 dec 2024 5:55 am est : #add# [addition 13 dec 2024 5:51 am est] ;;